This transcript appears in the November 11, 2022 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
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William Happer
CO2: The Stuff of Life
This is an edited transcript of the presentation of William Happer, delivered via pre-recorded video to Panel 2 of the Schiller Institute’s Oct. 15, 2022 Youth Conference, “Build the New Paradigm: Defeat Green Fascism.” Dr. Happer is the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics emeritus at Princeton University. The title has been added.
The video of this presentation is available here.
I’m Will Happer. I’m a physicist: I taught for many years at Princeton, and before that at Columbia. I’ve also spent some time in Washington, so I’ve had a varied career.
What I want to say, now, is just a few words about carbon dioxide (CO2), which is at the center of many really stupid policies that are being espoused by governments around the world, especially in the West and Europe, and in the United States.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant at all! It’s actually a benefit, and it’s really the stuff of life. We wouldn’t exist without CO2.. By the standards of geological history, CO2 levels now are much lower than they ought to be, and plants are struggling, actually, to grow. They grow much better if you double or triple the amount of CO2 in the air. Commercial greenhouse operators routinely double or triple the amount of CO2 in the greenhouse, because even though you have to pay for the CO2—it’s not cheap—you get such better products from your plants, better flowers, better fruits, that it’s worth the extra expense from the CO2.
You can see that happening on a large scale, from satellites. If you look down at the Earth, it’s clear the Earth is getting slowly greener over the past 50 years, and if you analyze that, it’s not because there’s more rainfall or more fertilizer, it’s because there’s more CO2. So, there’s nothing but good news from increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Now, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and it does affect the climate, but not very much. If you were to double CO2 levels, and that would take a long time—over a century, at the rates of increase that we’re seeing today—you would only decrease the radiation to space that is controlled by CO2, by 1%. So this 100% increase in CO2, which will be hard to attain, only makes a 1% difference in the cooling radiation to space, and that can easily be made up by a very small warming of the Earth: The Earth’s surface would have to warm by about 1° Centigrade. The exact number nobody really knows for sure; it depends on various feedbacks. But I would be very surprised, and most other knowledgeable people very surprised, if it exceeds about 1° Centigrade.
We’re Made of Carbon
The most generous thing I can say about people who go around talking about “carbon pollution” and “carbon footprint,” and this sort of thing, is that they have a very poor education in science. If they knew more about science, they wouldn’t say that. And this, unfortunately, includes a lot of scientists, who like to pontificate on things that they don’t really understand. It’s a disease that goes with being in academia.
We’re made of carbon. Human beings are bags of protein and fat, and other materials that are all based on carbon. The amino acids that are the building stones of our proteins have a carbon atom in the center and lots of carbon surrounding them and the other parts of the molecule. The sugars and the fats that provide energy for us are all based on carbon, and so, we use a lot of carbon. And we breathe out large amounts of carbon with every breath. In fact, the average human breathes out about 2 lbs. of CO2 per day.
I want you to think about this. We’re basically carbon living creatures, all living creatures. And we produce a lot of CO2 simply by living: Two pounds a day per human. There are 8 billion humans, so that’s quite a lot of carbon, isn’t it, per day?
If you’re going to get rid of “carbon pollution,” does that mean we ought to get rid of humans? This is not a rhetorical question: It’s something worth serious consideration, because some of the most rabid proponents of fighting climate change also think you need to get rid of most humans. I don’t agree with that, and you ought to think about it, too, because it could affect you in the future.
‘Burning Witches To Stop Climate Change’
Everyone knows that the climate always changes. The geological record makes that clear. Even in the historical record we know very well that there was a massive climate change at the end of the Roman Empire. It was one of the contributors that caused the mass migrations that were such a problem for the Roman Empire. There have been many other changes in the climate like that.
Definitely, climate changes. I don’t see evidence that humans have had very much to do with it, or will have very much to do with it in the future. I already mentioned that the main greenhouse gas that we’re concerned about, CO2, is heavily saturated, so doubling the amount of it would only cause a 1% change in radiative forcing—to use a technical term.
The idea that we have to spend trillions of dollars decarbonizing the Earth, when CO2 is definitely good for the Earth, good for life on Earth, is just insane. It’s like burning witches to stop climate change—which we used to do, by the way. When we did that, the leadership was always the most educated people. In the Salem witch trials, all the judges had Harvard degrees. The common people were a little less certain that the witches had anything to do with the bad climate, but there was no doubt in the minds of Harvard judges that they did.
Thank you very much. I wish you all well at this meeting: It’s an important meeting, so learn as much as you can.